February 22nd, 2010
We have seen a number of cases in which a dealer tells a consumer that a previously-wrecked vehicle has not been wrecked. We have also seen situations in which a dealer tells a consumer that a car had experienced just minor damage from a prior wreck, when in fact the car had been “totalled” and had a salvage title. However, there appear to be significantly fewer situations in which a dealer surreptitiously sells a “chopped car.”
A “chopped car” is a car that has been constructed by taking two badly damaged cars and joining them together. This allows the dealer, or the “chop shop,” to take otherwise potentially near valueless vehicles and make a decent profit. Stay away from chopped cars. A chopped car is a “2-for-1″ deal that you can afford to pass up.
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February 19th, 2010
Many car dealers have recording equipment, usually in the F&I (finance and insurance) person’s office, in order to record everything that happens. When you meet with a “finance manager,” everything you say and do, and hopefully everything that the F&I person says and does, might be recorded by audio and/or video. This is great evidence if a dispute later arises, as long as the dealer does not destroy the recording. However, a dealer might be able to immediately play back the video or audio, or monitor recording while it is happening.
If there is a chance that a car dealer can monitor your every move and word at the dealership, assume that you are always being recorded. If you are inside the dealership, don’t say anything, even during a telephone call with a friend or relative, or to anyone that might have gone with you to the dealership, unless you want everyone at the dealership to know about it. If you need to say something in private – go outside. Get away from the building and any apparent exterior cameras. While this might sound like paranoia, saying the wrong thing at the wrong place or time could cost you thousands of dollars.
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February 17th, 2010
What does it mean when a car salesperson gets a “bump” from you? It does not mean that that two of you are so excited that you have decided to dance. Instead, it refers to a point in the car negotiation process, or the verbal dance between you and the dealership. When a salesperson gets a “bump” from you, he or she has simply gotten you to raise the price you have offered to pay for the car. Be sure that you really want to give that bump, and do not be pressured into doing so.
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February 16th, 2010
Saturn of Lewisville, claiming to be a successor-in-interest to the rights (for purposes of a lawsuit) of Saturn of Irving, recently filed a lawsuit against 12 consumers. Saturn of Lewisville claims that twelve people who purchased vehicles from Saturn of Irving, along with the finance company providing financing for the sales, never paid for the vehicles. The finance company, Metropolitan Finance, LLC (“Metropolitan”), and the Texas Department of Transporation were also named as defendants. A copy of the petition is here – Saturn of Lewisville v. Consumers
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February 8th, 2010
Last week, a Baltimore County jury returned a $70,000.00 verdict against a car dealer. A portion of the issues in the jury’s verdict sheet involved a disclosure notice, and the court instructed the jury that the defendant admitted to not sending a copy of the notice to the Motor Vehicle Administration (“MVA”) as required by law. The jury found the following:
- That the consumer suffered damages as a result of the defendant not sending a copy of the notice to the MVA
- That the defendant did not provide to the consumer a copy of the notice
- That the consumer suffered damages as a result of the defendant not providing to the consumer a copy of the notice
The jury also failed to find that the defendant forged the consumer’s signature on the notice, but the jury did find that the defendant materially altered the notice after the consumer signed it. The jury also found:
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That the defendant intentionally concealed a material fact to the consumer with the intent to induce the consumer to act in reliance on such representation
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That the defendant negligently failed to tell the consumer a material fact
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That the consumer suffered damages as a result of the concealment from, or the negligent failure to tell, the consumer of the material fact
The jury provided for damages:
Williams & Santoni, LLP (Maryland) (http://www.williams-santonilaw.com) represented the consumer.
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February 2nd, 2010
Car dealers have their own lingo. We have posted about “bird dogs” and “be-backs.” What about bumblebees? We all learned as kids to stay away from wasps. I still remember a couple times when a wasp got the best of me. Real bumblebees are not usually aggressive, though they will sting if provoked or to protect their nests (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee). Bumblebees at car dealers are different. They are not hard to spot. In fact, you might be able to look into the mirror and see one.
A bumblebee, to a car dealer, is a consumer who goes from dealership to dealership but never buys anything. They talk. They test-drive. They say that they will “be back” after looking at other cars. Car dealers dont like this type of bumblebee, because they can’t make money without a sale.
There is nothing wrong with being the right kind of bumblebee. Take your time. Compare prices and features. You will likely have that car (and possibly a payment to go with it) for a long time.
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January 30th, 2010
You have been walking the lot with the salesman for 45 minutes, and you have actually driven one vehicle. The salesman keeps pushing you toward a vehicle that really does not meet your needs, but for which he says that he can get you a “great deal.” After another hour-an-a-half of prodding, and two more test drives, you have been beaten down. You finally begin to believe that what appears to be the salesman’s favorite car is actually the best deal on the lot.
The car is not the color you want, but you rationalize that your favorite color is really too flashy for your age. The car only seats 4, and you have a family of five. Well, your family can always take two cars, right? The model year is two years ago, but the car is still “new,” right? Oh, and then there is the fact the the salesman can get a “spiff” or a bonus for selling that particular car to you. What? You didn’t think about that, because the salesman did not tell you.
A “bonus car” is one for which the dealer will pay a salesperson a “spiff” (usually cash) or a bonus. There is usually a reason that the dealer needs to pay a bonus. The car is “new,” but the model year is two years old. The car has a horrible Consumer Reports rating. The car was previously wrecked and repaired. The list of potential issues is long.
If a car salesperson keeps steering you (no pun intended) toward a particular car or truck, ask her (and yourself) some questions. Its always great to see someone get a bonus, but it should not be at your expense.
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January 23rd, 2010
Most people expect, or at least hope, to be treated well by a car dealer. After all, if you show up at a dealer, you are likely to spend thousands of dollars. I have heard people complain about not being given anything to drink when negotiating a sale. This is a small but valid complaint. But, beware of the all-too-quick offer of a soft drink. It might lead to the purchase of an unwanted vehicle and overpriced add-ons.
I love the new-car smell. However, I really don’t love the new-car payment book smell. I have never been to a dealer and been sold a car based on the look and feel of a payment book. Car salespeople understand that, unfortunately, many of us purchase based upon feelings and for various psychological reasons. When we first appear at a dealership and are immediately offered a Coke (or a Dr.Pepper, Dasani, Mountain Dew, or . . . whatever you fancy), most decent-thinking people feel as if they owe something to the salesperson. There are two words to remember – You Don’t. A salesperson is there to sell a car to you and make a commission. Just because you were given, free-of-charge, something to drink does not mean that you are obligated to do anything.
Be courteous, and beware. Two bites of fruit in the Garden of Eden led to a host of problems for humanity. One Coke could lead to a debt beyond your means and a car that you might not have wanted.
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January 23rd, 2010
Do you remember your first set of keys? Were you fortunate enough to have keys to your own car, or were “your” car keys really your parents’ keys for their “not so cool” car? Whichever was the case, your car keys represented a lot of things. Freedom. Mobility. The ability to “get away.” Car dealers understand these things, and they can use them to your disadvantage.
The longer a car dealer keeps you at the lot, the more likely it is that you are going to buy a car. You begin to feel committed to the salesperson. You feel like you have invested so much time in the buying process that you should complete it. These are valid feelings, but they do not help you make an intelligent, economic decision. Nevertheless, car dealers play into these feelings. If a car dealer cannot use more subtle ways of keeping you at the dealership until the deal is closed, they might “throw your keys on the roof.”
If you have driven to the dealer a vehicle that you might trade, a car dealer might ask for the keys to the vehicle. The salesperson will tell you that she needs to get an appraisal of your trade-in. She will then hand the keys off to an unknown employee, who in turn disappears. If it seems to the salesperson that negotiations are not going well, your keys will be magically “lost.” The car dealer has effectively thrown the keys on the roof, so that they cannot be found. There was a time when some dealers would literally throw the keys on the roof in order to “lose” them. Now, dealer employees might say to each other “put them on the roof” as a way to say, “Let’s play keep-away with the keys.” At this point, the dealer will pull out every sales technique in the book to sell you a car. You continually ask for your keys only to be told, “We are still looking for them.” You are stuck. Your car is at the dealer, and you have no way to leave.
How do you avoid this situation? Do not give your keys to anyone until you have a written deal, including terms for your trade-in. This might seem cumbersome, but you need to avoid allowing a dealer to control when you can leave. Otherwise, you might make a car-buying decision that you will later regret.
There was actually a case in the Dallas-Fort Worth area years ago in which a hearing impaired person was allegedly treated this way. Here is the Fort Worth Court of Appeals opinion (later reversed by the Texas Supreme Court) -
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January 22nd, 2010
A Wyoming jury found a used car dealer guilty of several felony counts. Here is a link to a detailed article -
http://ca.sys-con.com/node/1256584
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